And they say the exact same thing. They say, ‘there’s no way this is real...this can’t be real’, even though we’re here and we’re living it
— Finn

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If you talked to other people, they’d say they made friends with the wrong person. That they did something they shouldn’t have. That, if given the chance, they should take it back, retrace their steps, and stop what they did.

But they wouldn’t say that.

We sit down with them - and a psychological anthropologist - to figure out why, and what it says about the human mind. 


The Facts

Moonwalk is produced and hosted by Mohnish Soundararajan. It's co-hosted by Kevin Sanji. This episode was edited by Jarrod Sport and Kevin Sanji. Feedback is by Justine Brumm.

Music is by Podington Bear.

Special thanks to Jonce and Finn. Huge thanks to T.M. Luhrmann.

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The Research

  1. Luhrmann, T. M., Nusbaum, H., & Thisted, R. (2010). The absorption hypothesis: learning to hear God in evangelical Christianity. American Anthropologist112(1), 66–78.
  2. Gray, K., & Wegner, D. M. (2010). Blaming God for our pain: Human suffering and the divine mind. Personality and Social Psychology Review14(1), 7–16.
  3. Haidt, J. (2006). The happiness hypothesis: Finding modern truth in ancient wisdom. Basic Books.
  4. Varieties of Tulpa Experiences: Sentient Imaginary Friends, Embodied Joint Attention, and Hypnotic Sociality in a Wired World | Somatosphere. (n.d.). Retrieved from